Showing posts with label tiebreak. Show all posts
Showing posts with label tiebreak. Show all posts

Monday, July 15, 2013

Blizzard clarifies arena tie-break

Blizzard clarifies arena tiebreakThere has been an excellent thread running in the EU forums laying out constructive criticisms of the new arena tie-break system. This system, if you hadn't heard, introduces a new buff called "The Crowd Chose You!!!" which will be applied to one team or another based on two criteria: the team with the largest number of players alive, and the team that brought an enemy player closest to death. Blizzard EU Community Manager Taepsilum posted in the thread to clarify that this is still very much in iteration, and to calm the fears of the posters, but a couple of great points were brought up.

Firstly, if one team gets an enemy player to repeatedly low health percentages, for example, they get a mage to 10% then to 5% then to 8%, but their opponents get one of them to 2%, do their opponents win? It sounds, from reading about the system, like the team that got the player to 2% would emerge victorious, but this seems a little counter-intuitive. Another great question is whether the health for the calculation is percentage based or numerical. Percent would make more sense, it seems. Hit the break for Taepsilum's post.


TaepsilumThere are some very good points being brought up in here, particularly the dispute between the "frequency in which each team gets someone from the other team close to death during the course of one game" Vs "how close to death the enemy was".

Some solutions could encourage turtling and we have to pay attention to that.
On the other hand, we also don't want to change players' behaviour too much because of this, for example, some healers might stop feeling comfortable playing at low health in order to keep the pressure on the other team during certain moments, and paladins/spriests/mages/hunters/rogues won't wait so long before they bubble/block/deterrence/vanish, etc...

Who should win between a team that nearly kills their opponent 20 times during one single match and a team that leaves their opponent at 1 HP and plays defensively during the rest of the game?
Maybe there could be a mix between both variables with some weight applied to each of them.

We'll make sure to share the potential issues you brought up with the devs, there are many solutions available to break ties and it's possible that we end up seeing some iteration on this.

Tags: arena, arena-guide, arena-strats, arena-tie-break, arena-tiebreak, arena-tips, arenas, breaking, featured, guide, how-to-play-battlegrounds, how-to-pvp, pvp-guide, tie-break, wow-arena, wow-arena-guide, wow-guide

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Blizzard clarifies arena tie-break

Blizzard clarifies arena tiebreakThere has been an excellent thread running in the EU forums laying out constructive criticisms of the new arena tie-break system. This system, if you hadn't heard, introduces a new buff called "The Crowd Chose You!!!" which will be applied to one team or another based on two criteria: the team with the largest number of players alive, and the team that brought an enemy player closest to death. Blizzard EU Community Manager Taepsilum posted in the thread to clarify that this is still very much in iteration, and to calm the fears of the posters, but a couple of great points were brought up.

Firstly, if one team gets an enemy player to repeatedly low health percentages, for example, they get a mage to 10% then to 5% then to 8%, but their opponents get one of them to 2%, do their opponents win? It sounds, from reading about the system, like the team that got the player to 2% would emerge victorious, but this seems a little counter-intuitive. Another great question is whether the health for the calculation is percentage based or numerical. Percent would make more sense, it seems. Hit the break for Taepsilum's post.


TaepsilumThere are some very good points being brought up in here, particularly the dispute between the "frequency in which each team gets someone from the other team close to death during the course of one game" Vs "how close to death the enemy was".

Some solutions could encourage turtling and we have to pay attention to that.
On the other hand, we also don't want to change players' behaviour too much because of this, for example, some healers might stop feeling comfortable playing at low health in order to keep the pressure on the other team during certain moments, and paladins/spriests/mages/hunters/rogues won't wait so long before they bubble/block/deterrence/vanish, etc...

Who should win between a team that nearly kills their opponent 20 times during one single match and a team that leaves their opponent at 1 HP and plays defensively during the rest of the game?
Maybe there could be a mix between both variables with some weight applied to each of them.

We'll make sure to share the potential issues you brought up with the devs, there are many solutions available to break ties and it's possible that we end up seeing some iteration on this.

Tags: arena, arena-guide, arena-strats, arena-tie-break, arena-tiebreak, arena-tips, arenas, breaking, featured, guide, how-to-play-battlegrounds, how-to-pvp, pvp-guide, tie-break, wow-arena, wow-arena-guide, wow-guide

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Friday, July 5, 2013

Patch 5.4 PTR: Arena tie-break system revamp with a 1,000% damage buff

Patch 54 PTR Arena tiebreak system revampBlizzard Senior PvP Designer Brian Holinka tweeted over the weekend in response to a player who sent over this image of a buff on his character on the PTR. "The Crowd Chose You!!!" iPatch 54 PTR Arena tiebreak system revamps a buff that, as you can see from the tooltip, gives huge additional damage, as well as preventing that player from taking any damage. The person who captured the shot tweeted to Holinka asking for clarification, as you would in that situation, and Holinka replied, saying that it was a tie-breaker.

Naturally this caused quite a lot of excitement among Holinka's followers, with some people getting rather upset and worried that this would somehow result in a race to see who was the first to press their button, or similar, so Holinka followed up with a further tweet clarifying exactly what the buff would be used for.


Now, what this means is that the fears of players who are saying "this buff is OP" are unfounded. This will most likely be applied to a player or players on the team that the tie-break system concludes should have won an arena match that is about to time out, allowing that player or those players to bring the match to a close, removing their opponents' ability to turtle or use stealth to hide.

What remains in question, and as Holinka adds this will be covered by future patch notes, is just how exactly the game decides to award this buff to one team or another. I've discussed this previously in a Blood Sport column, but that system is the important element here, although the buff is cool. I personally think that, once the buff is active, there should be a block on any player leaving the arena. Because if players just left, that would really spoil your fun! Tags: arena-tie-break, breaking, patch-5.4, patch-5.4-pvp, tie-break

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